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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 20:09:18 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: List Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1124 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Fri, 14 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1124 Today's Topics: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint Duplexer Theory Finding a ground in a old House Heathkit H-89's Internet Callbook Servers Kindness and ham radio orbs$287.1of2.amsat orbs$287.2l.amsat What is "Amateur Radio"? (2 msgs) Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:36:09 -0600 From: rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Davis) Subject: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint alexm@intrepid.UUCP (Mike Alexander X7908) writes: >I seem to remember this same posting coming up 2 previous times over the >last 4 years and the reaction is the same. Do we have a new group of pe ple >on this everytime the posting appears? I seem to recall the previous 2 imes >that it was found to be a fake. Is this time any different? Yes, it appears to be different. The evening of Thursday, 13 October 1994, I had a short conversation (in person) with ARRL Midwest Division Director Lew Gordon, K4VX. He mentioned in passing that ARRL had settled its differences with the Lambda Radio Club. He gave no further information. -- rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu Robert Davis Salina, KS Amateur Radio K0FPC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:31:11 +0000 From: ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk (Iain Philipps) Subject: Duplexer Theory Don't get all excited, folks! This isn't yet another question about the design and manufacturing of cavity filters. Nope. What I'm interested in is the theory behind the hybrid ring circuit which one sees published from time to time. The one I'm looking at right now is in the 1989 ARRL Handbook .... I'm sure that some genius or other out there in NetLand (tm) has the answers to the following questions, and I'd be obliged if they could be shared with me :-) 1. The coax specified is RG-8; this seems to be directly at odds with everything else one is told about using efficiently shielded cable for duplexer construction. Should I attempt to build one of these, I'd rather use LDF4-50 (mainly because I have a lot of it, and the connectors are 'the right price'. Anything wrong with this as a concept (providing, of course, the correct velocity factor is applied to the length calculations)? 2. Are the cable lengths between each ring and the TX / RX critical? If so, what should they be (in relative terms)? 3. Are the cable lengths between each ring and the commoned 'T' connector for the antenna critical? Again, if these are critical, how should one calculate the required length? 4. What (in relative terms) should be the length for the tuning stubs? And with the next part of this question, you'll begin to get a sense of my lack of understanding of the circuit. Should these be OPEN or SHORT circuit stubs? 5. For a correctly assembled duplexer as described, what TX / RX isolation could be reasonably expected for this design? Thanks for listening :-) -- Iain Philipps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:58:50 GMT From: klw4k@thunder.ee.Virginia.EDU (Kenneth Lee Wright) Subject: Finding a ground in a old House HI I am a new ham and I am trying to find a ground in an old house I am renting. The outlets have only 2 wires going to them. The water pipes are part PVC and part copper. What I really want to know is there a way to test the pipes and find one of them that is grounded. Thanks Kenneth Wright KD4WNS klw4k@virginia.edu PS Could some one please mail me the answers because I don't always have the time to read news. -- Thanks Kenneth L. Wright Masters Student EE @ UVa klw4k@virginia.edu CSIC SMC project ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:50:57 GMT From: donh@cup.hp.com (Don Hay) Subject: Heathkit H-89's I have TWO Heathkit H-89 (factory built) computers. These are Z80 based machines built into a 'smart' 25 line addressable terminal. These are 1980 vintage, are compatible only with themselves! Both have built-in floppy drives, no hard-drives, run on a DOS system. If nothing else, the termials can be used to logon to other machines! If you are into HAM radio, these would make an excellent choice for a dedicated PACKET host! XYL says these MUST GO! Make an offer! Don H. 408-447-5017 donh@cup.hp.com Cupertino/San Jose, California. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 1994 16:13:57 GMT From: fuat@tintin.cc.columbia.edu (Fuat C. Baran) Subject: Internet Callbook Servers In article <37gn60$t2b@hopper.acm.org>, <smithson@ACM.ORG> wrote: >I saw a note on this group a while ago listing internet callbook servers. >Anyone know where I might find that? If you have access to World-Wide Web browsers, such as Mosaic, look at: http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/ At the bottom, choose "Callsign Servers" and you'll get a list of the various ones I know about. Regular telnet ones such as callsign.cs.buffalo.edu's port 2000 as well as the latest QRZ CD-ROM from QRZ available via forms interface and the UK callbook from mcc.ac.uk. Also a forms interface to the Hams on Usenet listing. You can also go direct to: http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/callsign-servers.html --Fuat, N2YGN Columbia University fuat@columbia.edu 703 Watson Labs 212-854-4804 612 W115th Street 212-662-6442 (Fax) New York, NY 10025 N2YGN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:23:51 -0400 From: wa4zos@wa4zos.lib.muohio.edu (Bob Junke) Subject: Kindness and ham radio In article <1994Oct14.021924.26491@egreen.wednet.edu>, jmollan@egreen.iclnet.org (John Mollan - Harm) wrote: > There was a time when this was a small world and everyone waved as the > passed each other. > > There was a time in the day of the crystal-controlled vhf transceiver, (less > than 20 years ago) when a "monitoring" on a repeater would get a reply in > nearly every town and city. > > In 1994 we have astounding technological devices that will transmit and > receive anywhere in modes that were not imagined in the 70's. > > At the same time as our gear has become sophisticated, we have regressed > in our friendliness and common courtesy. > > On a coast-to-coast trip decades ago, I would seldom be out of touch, > even when using a 10 channel 2 meter rig. Now the same trip using a > fancy, multi-everything rig raises few responses, even in busy areas like > Chicago and Baltimore. Just a mere 6 years ago, saying "monitoring" would usually get a response. Now, ir usually doesn't. I live in Ohio, and there exists a wide area repeator "system" that spans from Cleveland on down into Kentucky and over into Indiana. A few times, whenever i get a chance to be in my car for more that a couple of minutes, I will announce that I am "monitoring". I have yet to get a response. What is it all coming to? -- Tnx & 73, Bob +-----------------------------------------------------+ | Bob Junke, | | Miami University | | Oxford, Ohio 45056 | | (513)529-2351 Ham Call: WA4ZOS | | E-mail: wa4zos@wa4zos.lib.muohio.edu | | E-mail: junkere@muohio.edu | /) HAM PBBS: WA4ZOS @ N8JSF.#CIN.OH.USA.NOAM (\ / ) http://miamilink.lib.muohio.edu/bobj.html ( \ _( (+-----------------------------------------------------+) ) /> (((\ \) /,) / ) / //)/ (\\\\ \_/ / \ \_/ //// \ / \ / \ _/ \_ / ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 94 14:13:00 GMT From: ray.hoad@drig.COM (Ray Hoad) Subject: orbs$287.1of2.amsat SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-287.O Orbital Elements 287.OSCAR HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX October 14, 1994 BID: $ORBS-287.O TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: AO-10 Catalog number: 14129 Epoch time: 94274.43486862 Element set: 315 Inclination: 26.8409 deg RA of node: 305.1981 deg Eccentricity: 0.6029094 Arg of perigee: 215.5270 deg Mean anomaly: 82.9344 deg Mean motion: 2.05880028 rev/day Decay rate: 9.0e-08 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 8497 Checksum: 314 Satellite: UO-11 Catalog number: 14781 Epoch time: 94284.55050201 Element set: 745 Inclination: 97.7843 deg RA of node: 293.8226 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010711 Arg of perigee: 258.5688 deg Mean anomaly: 101.4311 deg Mean motion: 14.69252752 rev/day Decay rate: 1.39e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 56739 Checksum: 313 Satellite: RS-10/11 Catalog number: 18129 Epoch time: 94284.06842816 Element set: 972 Inclination: 82.9251 deg RA of node: 243.1794 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012999 Arg of perigee: 65.4275 deg Mean anomaly: 294.8211 deg Mean motion: 13.72342218 rev/day Decay rate: 2.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 36580 Checksum: 318 Satellite: AO-13 Catalog number: 19216 Epoch time: 94284.59421807 Element set: 981 Inclination: 57.7136 deg RA of node: 226.3304 deg Eccentricity: 0.7236688 Arg of perigee: 352.3018 deg Mean anomaly: 0.7184 deg Mean motion: 2.09719137 rev/day Decay rate: 9.9e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4845 Checksum: 324 Satellite: FO-20 Catalog number: 20480 Epoch time: 94284.85344646 Element set: 739 Inclination: 99.0568 deg RA of node: 54.7296 deg Eccentricity: 0.0541259 Arg of perigee: 75.2624 deg Mean anomaly: 290.7810 deg Mean motion: 12.83227371 rev/day Decay rate: -3.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 21909 Checksum: 323 Satellite: AO-21 Catalog number: 21087 Epoch time: 94285.81164397 Element set: 528 Inclination: 82.9366 deg RA of node: 55.6506 deg Eccentricity: 0.0036285 Arg of perigee: 114.7470 deg Mean anomaly: 245.7469 deg Mean motion: 13.74545983 rev/day Decay rate: 9.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 18574 Checksum: 347 Satellite: RS-12/13 Catalog number: 21089 Epoch time: 94284.16533842 Element set: 744 Inclination: 82.9200 deg RA of node: 285.4371 deg Eccentricity: 0.0030063 Arg of perigee: 143.3255 deg Mean anomaly: 216.9900 deg Mean motion: 13.74047285 rev/day Decay rate: 1.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 18457 Checksum: 297 Satellite: ARSENE Catalog number: 22654 Epoch time: 94278.90721955 Element set: 291 Inclination: 2.0802 deg RA of node: 94.2592 deg Eccentricity: 0.2911798 Arg of perigee: 193.1780 deg Mean anomaly: 157.9888 deg Mean motion: 1.42203095 rev/day Decay rate: -8.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 277 Checksum: 322 /EX SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-287.D Orbital Elements 287.MICROS HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX October 14, 1994 BID: $ORBS-287.D TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: UO-14 Catalog number: 20437 Epoch time: 94284.24734306 Element set: 44 Inclination: 98.5858 deg RA of node: 7.4211 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010422 Arg of perigee: 207.9287 deg Mean anomaly: 152.1334 deg Mean motion: 14.29857747 rev/day Decay rate: 3.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 24617 Checksum: 297 Satellite: AO-16 Catalog number: 20439 Epoch time: 94284.71838348 Element set: 842 Inclination: 98.5951 deg RA of node: 9.2464 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010677 Arg of perigee: 207.7087 deg Mean anomaly: 152.3532 deg Mean motion: 14.29911794 rev/day Decay rate: 4.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 24625 Checksum: 330 Satellite: DO-17 Catalog number: 20440 Epoch time: 94284.73130830 Element set: 843 Inclination: 98.5957 deg RA of node: 9.6221 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010935 Arg of perigee: 205.9747 deg Mean anomaly: 154.0880 deg Mean motion: 14.30051780 rev/day Decay rate: 4.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 24627 Checksum: 296 Satellite: WO-18 Catalog number: 20441 Epoch time: 94284.77872173 Element set: 846 Inclination: 98.5954 deg RA of node: 9.6613 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011367 Arg of perigee: 207.0179 deg Mean anomaly: 153.0411 deg Mean motion: 14.30025442 rev/day Decay rate: 4.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 24628 Checksum: 294 Satellite: LO-19 Catalog number: 20442 Epoch time: 94284.18928613 Element set: 841 Inclination: 98.5964 deg RA of node: 9.3666 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011606 Arg of perigee: 208.4611 deg Mean anomaly: 151.5940 deg Mean motion: 14.30123245 rev/day Decay rate: 4.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 24621 Checksum: 293 Satellite: UO-22 Catalog number: 21575 Epoch time: 94284.21428917 Element set: 548 Inclination: 98.4259 deg RA of node: 356.3104 deg Eccentricity: 0.0007324 Arg of perigee: 310.2542 deg Mean anomaly: 49.8001 deg Mean motion: 14.36934979 rev/day Decay rate: 4.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 16974 Checksum: 320 Satellite: KO-23 Catalog number: 22077 Epoch time: 94284.78844457 Element set: 441 Inclination: 66.0824 deg RA of node: 35.8455 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015344 Arg of perigee: 259.3353 deg Mean anomaly: 100.5937 deg Mean motion: 12.86288007 rev/day Decay rate: -3.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 10178 Checksum: 315 Satellite: AO-27 Catalog number: 22825 Epoch time: 94284.64890901 Element set: 340 Inclination: 98.6448 deg RA of node: 359.2338 deg Eccentricity: 0.0007811 Arg of perigee: 228.3764 deg Mean anomaly: 131.6754 deg Mean motion: 14.27636872 rev/day Decay rate: 3.8e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 5430 Checksum: 327 Satellite: IO-26 Catalog number: 22826 Epoch time: 94285.18203164 Element set: 338 Inclination: 98.6432 deg RA of node: 359.8142 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008405 Arg of perigee: 229.0416 deg Mean anomaly: 131.0042 deg Mean motion: 14.27741823 rev/day Decay rate: 2.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 5438 Checksum: 290 Satellite: KO-25 Catalog number: 22830 Epoch time: 94284.74577107 Element set: 345 Inclination: 98.5454 deg RA of node: 355.3885 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010997 Arg of perigee: 191.4058 deg Mean anomaly: 168.6873 deg Mean motion: 14.28066134 rev/day Decay rate: 3.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 5433 Checksum: 334 Satellite: 22828 Catalog number: 22828 Epoch time: 94284.74511794 Element set: 317 Inclination: 98.6404 deg RA of node: 359.4037 deg Eccentricity: 0.0009437 Arg of perigee: 213.8387 deg Mean anomaly: 146.2189 deg Mean motion: 14.28069039 rev/day Decay rate: 4.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 2241 Checksum: 334 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 94 14:21:00 GMT From: ray.hoad@drig.COM (Ray Hoad) Subject: orbs$287.2l.amsat SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-287.N 2Line Orbital Elements 287.AMSAT HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX October 14, 1994 BID: $ORBS-287.N DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY: 1 AAAAAU 00 0 0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB .CCCCCCCC 00000-0 00000-0 0 DDDZ 2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT AO-10 1 14129U 83058B 94274.43486862 .00000009 00000-0 10000-3 0 3153 2 14129 26.8409 305.1981 6029094 215.5270 82.9344 2.05880028 84978 UO-11 1 14781U 84021B 94284.55050201 .00000139 00000-0 31409-4 0 7454 2 14781 97.7843 293.8226 0010711 258.5688 101.4311 14.69252752567399 RS-10/11 1 18129U 87054A 94284.06842816 .00000023 00000-0 84473-5 0 9724 2 18129 82.9251 243.1794 0012999 65.4275 294.8211 13.72342218365801 AO-13 1 19216U 88051B 94284.59421807 .00000099 00000-0 10000-4 0 9818 2 19216 57.7136 226.3304 7236688 352.3018 0.7184 2.09719137 48452 FO-20 1 20480U 90013C 94284.85344646 -.00000030 00000-0 -28342-5 0 7395 2 20480 99.0568 54.7296 0541259 75.2624 290.7810 12.83227371219092 AO-21 1 21087U 91006A 94285.81164397 .00000094 00000-0 82657-4 0 5284 2 21087 82.9366 55.6506 0036285 114.7470 245.7469 13.74545983185740 RS-12/13 1 21089U 91007A 94284.16533842 .00000015 00000-0 -63325-7 0 7447 2 21089 82.9200 285.4371 0030063 143.3255 216.9900 13.74047285184571 ARSENE 1 22654U 93031B 94278.90721955 -.00000087 00000-0 00000 0 0 2913 2 22654 2.0802 94.2592 2911798 193.1780 157.9888 1.42203095 2778 UO-14 1 20437U 90005B 94284.24734306 .00000033 00000-0 29769-4 0 440 2 20437 98.5858 7.4211 0010422 207.9287 152.1334 14.29857747246173 AO-16 1 20439U 90005D 94284.71838348 .00000046 00000-0 34677-4 0 8429 2 20439 98.5951 9.2464 0010677 207.7087 152.3532 14.29911794246251 DO-17 1 20440U 90005E 94284.73130830 .00000045 00000-0 34481-4 0 8437 2 20440 98.5957 9.6221 0010935 205.9747 154.0880 14.30051780246273 WO-18 1 20441U 90005F 94284.77872173 .00000041 00000-0 32995-4 0 8462 2 20441 98.5954 9.6613 0011367 207.0179 153.0411 14.30025442246284 LO-19 1 20442U 90005G 94284.18928613 .00000046 00000-0 34878-4 0 8411 2 20442 98.5964 9.3666 0011606 208.4611 151.5940 14.30123245246216 UO-22 1 21575U 91050B 94284.21428917 .00000047 00000-0 30357-4 0 5489 2 21575 98.4259 356.3104 0007324 310.2542 49.8001 14.36934979169748 KO-23 1 22077U 92052B 94284.78844457 -.00000037 00000-0 10000-3 0 4417 2 22077 66.0824 35.8455 0015344 259.3353 100.5937 12.86288007101787 AO-27 1 22825U 93061C 94284.64890901 .00000038 00000-0 33373-4 0 3406 2 22825 98.6448 359.2338 0007811 228.3764 131.6754 14.27636872 54307 IO-26 1 22826U 93061D 94285.18203164 .00000027 00000-0 28712-4 0 3382 2 22826 98.6432 359.8142 0008405 229.0416 131.0042 14.27741823 54387 KO-25 1 22830U 93061H 94284.74577107 .00000036 00000-0 32019-4 0 3452 2 22830 98.5454 355.3885 0010997 191.4058 168.6873 14.28066134 54332 22828 1 22828U 93061F 94284.74511794 .00000041 00000-0 34065-4 0 3177 2 22828 98.6404 359.4037 0009437 213.8387 146.2189 14.28069039 22413 NOAA-9 1 15427U 84123A 94284.88576792 .00000123 00000-0 89380-4 0 9860 2 15427 99.0375 336.6630 0014116 250.2030 109.7620 14.13649643506744 NOAA-10 1 16969U 86073A 94284.93376744 .00000037 00000-0 33861-4 0 8876 2 16969 98.5095 290.3801 0013658 352.9755 7.1228 14.24908446419120 MET-2/17 1 18820U 88005A 94284.21200952 .00000083 00000-0 60754-4 0 4316 2 18820 82.5445 176.2981 0015257 212.7178 147.3040 13.84723397338416 MET-3/2 1 19336U 88064A 94284.40015917 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 3402 2 19336 82.5363 241.4341 0017398 337.5373 22.4984 13.16969310298556 NOAA-11 1 19531U 88089A 94284.97826317 -.00000008 00000-0 20701-4 0 8039 2 19531 99.1821 276.8113 0011716 161.3680 198.7920 14.13019041311634 MET-2/18 1 19851U 89018A 94283.35733987 .00000017 00000-0 24910-5 0 3411 2 19851 82.5181 52.0914 0012874 265.2072 94.7617 13.84372856283620 MET-3/3 1 20305U 89086A 94285.20301720 .00000044 00000-0 10000-3 0 1718 2 20305 82.5547 189.0736 0007152 16.9324 343.2096 13.04418508238157 MET-2/19 1 20670U 90057A 94284.61121525 .00000024 00000-0 85524-5 0 8428 2 20670 82.5454 116.0101 0015107 175.9618 184.1658 13.84180741216724 FY-1/2 1 20788U 90081A 94289.49561892 -.00000041 00000-0 64550-6 0 1397 2 20788 98.8243 305.7168 0015800 41.5869 318.6047 14.01323187210695 MET-2/20 1 20826U 90086A 94284.30536543 .00000019 00000-0 40247-5 0 8516 2 20826 82.5234 53.5856 0014813 81.6659 278.6178 13.83589841203811 MET-3/4 1 21232U 91030A 94284.52778390 .00000050 00000-0 10000-3 0 7493 2 21232 82.5352 87.3454 0011828 257.6384 102.3405 13.16464652166661 NOAA-12 1 21263U 91032A 94284.96122984 .00000096 00000-0 62454-4 0 2226 2 21263 98.6099 310.1215 0011902 259.1285 100.8552 14.22454383177108 MET-3/5 1 21655U 91056A 94284.38229305 .00000051 00000-0 10000-3 0 7470 2 21655 82.5551 34.6747 0011982 267.1362 92.8383 13.16833529151759 MET-2/21 1 22782U 93055A 94284.99032059 .00000012 00000-0 -26931-5 0 3508 2 22782 82.5468 113.8885 0021182 260.2664 99.6103 13.83015863 56232 POSAT 1 22829U 93061G 94284.75277065 .00000067 00000-0 44616-4 0 3327 2 22829 98.6417 359.4311 0009302 215.2615 144.7948 14.28043993 54337 MIR 1 16609U 86017A 94285.21940732 .00003529 00000-0 53966-4 0 8014 2 16609 51.6464 320.7212 0002511 101.7700 258.3573 15.57365968494254 HUBBLE 1 20580U 90037B 94285.85730851 .00000639 00000-0 48428-4 0 5511 2 20580 28.4695 200.0833 0006032 236.6663 123.3345 14.90692067 46960 GRO 1 21225U 91027B 94282.82717952 .00003673 00000-0 79228-4 0 1552 2 21225 28.4606 156.0432 0003402 72.3932 287.7030 15.41372224 74645 UARS 1 21701U 91063B 94284.87998399 .00000405 00000-0 56362-4 0 6126 2 21701 56.9842 51.4324 0004613 101.9328 258.2219 14.96512306168409 /EX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 17:25:25 GMT From: mike@shien.ist.csuohio.edu (mike mayer) Subject: What is "Amateur Radio"? The FCC gives a more formal definition of the Amateur Radio Service, but you are probably looking for something you can say in front of a group that may never have heard of it and may not have a technical background. Amateur Radio is a hobby, sometimes even an avocation, involving radio communication between other Amateur Radio enthusiasts. It is called 'Amateur' Radio because the radio communication that takes place cannot be done in exchange for compensation, monetary or otherwise. The purpose of Amateur Radio is simply personal fulfillment, as well as to advance the radio 'art', foster international goodwill, help by volunteering radio communication services during emergencies, increase the numbers of licensed amateur radio operators, and to provide a means of technical advancement in the areas of radio and electronics. That last sentence was a rough interpretation of the FCC charter for amateur radio. Above all though, it's for the fun of communicating with others. Mike -- ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Catch the WAVE ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Support Engineer Amateur Radio KB8RJO Visual Numerics, Inc. 32915 Aurora Rd. Suite 160, Solon OH 44139 USA Email: mayer@boulder.vni.com Human: 216-248-4900 Fax: 216-248-2733 v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Good * Cheap * Quick (pick any two) ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 13:32:37 -0400 From: wa4zos@wa4zos.lib.muohio.edu (Bob Junke) Subject: What is "Amateur Radio"? In article <cmatthew.2.0@wpo.uwsuper.edu>, cmatthew@wpo.uwsuper.edu (CHARLES R. MATTHEW) wrote: > Somone askes you "What is Amateur Radio?", can you give them an answer > they will understand? Well that's what I have the most trouble with, > explaning what ham radio is. And now for a speech class I'm giving a speech > on ham radio. The basis is to explanin in lang terms what it is. And I'm > having trouble ounce again. So I'm asking you if you could give me your > difinition of "Amateur Radio", any lenght. If you can find it in a book, > send that along to. Please send your definitions to: > > (E-Mail Address) cmatthew@wpo.uwsuper.edu > (Packet Address) N0XFD@WB0SVA.#NEMN.MN.US.NA > > US Mail N0XFD > UWS Box 653 > Superior, WI 54880 > > or just leave a reply here! > > Thanks for your help! Oh I'm a student at U of Wisconsin Superior > -73's Charlie N0XFD 1) Amateur radio is a hobby. 2) Amateur radio is fun. 3) Amateur radio is a learning and growing experience. 4) Amateur radio is, by its name, *NOT FOR PROFIT*. 5) Amateur radio fosters good will and service to others. 6) Amateur radio promotes brotherhood (or should I say "personhood"). 7) Amateur radio is continually pioneering into new technology while not forgetting the past. 8) Amateur radio is "for me". -- Tnx & 73, Bob +-----------------------------------------------------+ | Bob Junke, | | Miami University | | Oxford, Ohio 45056 | | (513)529-2351 Ham Call: WA4ZOS | | E-mail: wa4zos@wa4zos.lib.muohio.edu | | E-mail: junkere@muohio.edu | /) HAM PBBS: WA4ZOS @ N8JSF.#CIN.OH.USA.NOAM (\ / ) http://miamilink.lib.muohio.edu/bobj.html ( \ _( (+-----------------------------------------------------+) ) /> (((\ \) /,) / ) / //)/ (\\\\ \_/ / \ \_/ //// \ / \ / \ _/ \_ / ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 94 13:17:06 EDT From: landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) References<001302Z11101994@anon.penet.fi> <37e873$8es@eugene.convex.com>, <roh033.mah48d-121094124321@136.141.220.39> Subject: Re: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint In article <roh033.mah48d-121094124321@136.141.220.39>, roh033.mah48d@rohmhaas.com (John E. Taylor III) writes: > In article <37e873$8es@eugene.convex.com>, horak@convex.com (David Horak) > wrote: > >> >ARRL and LARC met and reached a mutually acceptable solution to >> >LARC's discrimination complaint. LARC and ARRL are pleased to >> >report that the matter is now settled. >> >> >> So, what was the solution? Did it involve monitary compensation? >> Are they happy as a LARC now? > > It's common for agreements settling disputes like this to contain a clause > stating that the terms of the settlement are not to be made public, and > that both parties must approve any public statement made by either party > about the dispute. > > Bottom line, they ain't gonna tell you, 'cause they can't. Well, did you see the feature in QST a few months back (July maybe?) on the LARC Mode S DXpedition to a Caribbean Island? Can't remember which one now. Maybe doing the article featuring the club was part of the agreement. They did mention the clubs charter in the last paragraph. Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@drager.com - Ax25: AA3GN@WA3TSW.#EPA.PA.USA.NOAM - ampr: [44.80.8.153] Counting the days til deer season! Politically correct sig not available. ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #1124 ******************************